Catalina madness

What are Catalinas? And why does everyone get so excited about them?

Catalinas are a great way to save even more on your total grocery bill. On any given day, a good portion of the emails I receive pertain to Catalinas. There is so much to know about Catalina deals -- how they work, why they work, and why most of them aren't advertised. I cover Catalinas in great detail in Super-Couponing 2, and if you're crazy for Catalinas, I'd strongly encourage you to attend a session of Super-2 if you can.

But here's a primer on Catalina basics:

The term "Catalina" refers not to the delicious red salad dressing but to those checkout coupons that print from the small machine near the cash register at the end of a shopping transaction.

Why are they called Catalinas? The company that makes the machines and offers the deals is called Catalina. The coupons themselves are actually called checkout coupons, but almost all couponers and couponing websites refer to the paper coupons themselves as "Catalinas," so I do too.

How do they work? At any given time, there are dozens of Catalina promotions running at various stores. By purchasing an item, or a certain number of items, the register triggers the machine to print a coupon good for money off your next order, or a coupon for a product the machine feels you may be interested in buying based on past purchases. Some Catalina deals are based on purchasing an individual item, and others are based on quantities of a variety of items.

How do you know when a Catalina is going to print?
Some stores, like Walgreens, regularly advertise almost all of their Catalina promotions in the weekly flyer. That's why I teach that these are the best deals for new couponers to learn the ropes of Catalinas with. First, when you know exactly what should print, you can plan your shopping trip a little easier -- and if for some reason the Catalina doesn't print, you have the flyer in hand to show the store and can usually encourage the store to either try to reprint the Catalina or make additional arrangements to compensate you for the Catalina you missed.

Why wouldn't a Catalina print?
There are many reasons why a Catalina won't print. The first ones are hardware related. The machine could be out of paper or ink. The machine could be turned off (look for the green light on the front of the machine, or ask a cashier to make sure the machine is on.) The machine could also temporarily lose its uplink to the satellite connection, which transmits your purchase history to Catalina and triggers the Catalina to print.

You could have also purchased the wrong item. Catalina deals are typically highly specific to varieties, sizes and types of products. One flavor of salad dressing could trigger the Catalina (no pun intended!) while another may not. And if you're doing a multiple-item Catalina deal which requires you to purchase 6 participating items, purchasing even one wrong size or variety will ruin your entire order.

Worse, sometimes some varieties of items don't get scanned into the Catalina system, and even when it's supposed to generate a Catalina, it won't -- because that item's UPC is not attached to the Catalina in their system due to some oversight. That frustrates everyone, but there's truly nothing you can do about it. And it has happened. A few months ago, we saw a Mitchum deodorant deal in which each Mitchum purchased triggered a Catalina... except "Mountain Breeze." Why? Mountain Breeze's UPC wasn't entered into the system, so purchasing it didn't trigger the Catalina, even though "All Mitchum deodorant" was supposed to work.

How do you know about Catalina deals when they aren't advertised?

This is the big question :) And that's why Catalinas are a game unto themselves. There are typically 3 ways to find out about unadvertised Catalina deals.

1) In-store tags or cues. Many stores will have small shelf tags next to the price tag (square and white) that indicate the item has a Catalina deal attached to it. Jewel's Spotlight magazine (available on the racks in the front of the store) often has Catalina promotion info inside as well.

2) On Catalinas themselves. This is one of the biggest reasons I say NOT to throw those Catalinas away! Whenever you get a Catalina, read the wording closely. They often contain information about upcoming Catalina deals, telling you either the dates a deal is coming up, or a web address to go to, which contains more information about the upcoming deal.

3) On couponing websites. This is where the "risk" element comes in. There isn't one large, good resource about Catalinas - rather many diverse couponing sites that watch the deals. I would link them here but they're fairly difficult to navigate for beginners -- they use a lot of acronyms and couponing lingo, and because of their steep learning curve, they aren't terribly friendly or receptive to questions for beginners either. (If you think the acronyms SS, P&G, RP and KL are confusing, you would not be happy with trying to translate some of these..!) Some of these deals may be completely unadvertised for Jewel, but may be advertised at a different state's stores, like Albertsons, Acme, Supervalu or other stores in the same chain. When that's the case, you kind of have to try them on "faith" to see if they'll also work at Jewel -- and if they don't, you have no recourse to go to customer service and ask for a refund, because they were never advertised to begin with.

And then... if they're working at Jewel, I might try and see if they're working at Meijer too. Or Dominick's. Or Kmart. Or any other stores that have Catalina machines. Grocery stores sometimes share some of the same Catalina deals. But many times they don't. It really becomes a game of "does this work?"

What do I do when a Catalina doesn't print?
This, again, is the reason I encourage new couponers to stick to advertised Catalina deals. People tend to get very upset when they don't get a Catalina they're expecting -- and then instead of dealing with it at the store, they email ME and ask me to fix it for them :) I have no pull with the store. I just report what I know is working in my local store. Beyond that, there is ALWAYS an element of risk to a Catalina deal. If it's unadvertised, going to the service counter and asking for reimbursement will never work. The stores almost never have information about the Catalina deals that are running at any given time.

Your best course of action is either to chalk it up to experience, or return the items that you bought expecting the Catalina, and let it go. Or, you can try again with a different size/flavor/variety of the item in the deal. But again, this is why Catalina deals are beautiful when they work... and frustrating when they don't. Without an advertisement, there are no guarantees.

That's why I try to post the best and easiest Catalina deals here for you guys (doing the hard work myself.) But there's always risk involved. To do some of these higher-value Catalina deals, you need to understand that you are taking a chance on saving big. If you aren't willing to lose from time to time, don't get in the game. But if you're buying items at a good price that you wanted anyway, saving more money is an even nicer bonus.

Catalina deals at Jewel-Osco

For my Chicagoland readers, Catalina deals at Jewel-Osco currently run a little differently than they do at other stores. At other stores, a sale that specifies "Spend $25, get $10 back" operates on the pre-coupon sale price you pay for those items.

But, at Jewel-Osco, these prices work differently. During a Catalina deal at Jewel, we typically use the non-Preferred price to count up to $25, but we pay the Preferred price. Osco items count on the Preferred price only.

Where it starts to get a little confusing is that many Jewel items actually have THREE prices attached to them (and sometimes four!) If you take an item and scan it at the price checker in the store, you'll see either 2 or 3 prices attached to an item: Regular (Shelf), Sale, Preferred.

Among Shelf/Sale/Preferred, any item with 3 prices works on the middle (Sale) price to count up to the Catalina purchase requirement. Any item with two prices works on the first price listed (Shelf.) Scan your item at the price checker in the store, and you'll see all the prices attached to it.

If there is a fourth price, "Big Relief," this is the price you use.

For example, during a current sale, Ragu was $3.25 Shelf price, $1.99 Sale price, $1.50 Preferred price. The $1.99 is the price we would use to count to $25, but we would pay the $1.50 price. And, we of course will use coupons to knock the price down even more.

Remember too that your PRE tax total must go over $25.

I recommend that if you're VERY new to couponing, you may want to skip working these deals in this way -- these deals involve a lot of math to make sure you're over the mark and discerning the correct price. If you work from the Preferred prices, you're guaranteed to get your Catalina each time.

If you do work the deals in this way and for any reason you DON'T get the Catalina, you will truly have no recourse to get it with customer service, because you won't have spent what the ad says you have to. And, it isn't fair to the store to ask them to reimburse you, as the product manufacturers are the ones paying for the Catalina you receive, not the store itself. If you aren't comfortable doing these and accepting ANY outcome, don't do the deals in this way. Period.

While we're on the subject, any "instant-savings" deals ("Buy 10, save $10 instantly") do NOT work this way. Those operate on the actual price you pay (Preferred.)

Yes, this can be confusing. If it doesn't make sense, you can always wait until you've got a little more coupon experience before tackling the high-level Catalina deals. :)


Comments

Catalina's phone number?

I know it's been posted before, but I can't find it now. Can someone please share Catalina's phone number? Thanks!

catalina's #

1-888-322-3814

thank you!

Thank you Happy Saver. Appreciate it.

Catalina

If a cashier enters a catalina as grocery, can you ask them to change that and enter it as a manufacturer or is it too late? Do they give you a hard time if you do ask them?

Usually not

If it won't scan, BEFORE they start to key it in as grocery, that's when you want to nicely ask them to key in the entire UPC number, instead of typing in the dollar amount and hitting Grocery.

4th price at Jewel

With Jewel's new (Aug. 2009) "Big Relief Price Cut" prices, you use this one (and not shelf- or sale-price) to calculate getting to a catalina threshold, correct? Just wanted to double check. Thanks!

Yes

If there is a Big Relief price, THAT is the price you use to calculate, yes. :)

Jewel Catalinas

I am a black belt in training (only at Couponing a month), and to double check my math I will go to the self check out on my first run during a cat offer. I try to get a mix of all the products I am interested in and will run them prior to scanning my jewel card. When I hit the magic number I scan my card, and wait for the cat. I then hang onto the receipt as a cheat-sheet to plan my next sortie. I may be under or over an item, but if I plan my first trip with a buddy or at a slow time, not a problem. I am sure I will abandon this strategy eventually, but right now I have done it over a dozen times and haven't been burned (and learned alot!). I just make sure I am purchasing qualified items. I am waiting for the day they start using facial recognition technology like the casinos ("'Mam-your preferred card has been revoked")-If you are going to have a vice this is better than most.

"If you are going to have a vice this is better than most."

I always tell my husband "Coupon crack. At least its not real crack!"

When Cats won't scan...

What is the best way for the cashier to enter them instead of "grocery"? Thank you!

"Manufacturer"

As "manufacturer." They need to physically key in the UPC on the Cat, vs. just hitting "grocery" and typing in the dollar amount. That's why they do that - entering as grocery is faster, but it also prevents the next Cat from coming.

Ahhh Haaa! That is why my

Ahhh Haaa! That is why my mayo deal didn't work as it should have. It worked for others, but not me. I did go an try again and it worked the second time and cats printed. Now I recall, that a cat from my previous transaction(I did multiple) would not scan and she manually entered it. I need to pay attention to what they are doing next time. Now I know what to look for.
Thanks!!

wonderful

Thank you for the fast response! Now I can be prepared when I go to use these again. I certainly appreciate you sharing your coupon wisdom with us all!

You mentioned in another

You mentioned in another thread that cats don't work after 11pm, and that you shouldn't try to do these deals late at night, but I didn't see that little tidbit here.

Should be

I'll get it added. You are really on your own if you try them after 11pm, because at SOME point between 11pm-2am, the machines go down to receive updates for the next day. The green light will still be on, but the high-level cat deals won't be transmitted.

Mine won't scan

I have some Cats for Wags that won't scan when I try to redeem them (hehe, I used the couponing lingo:). It seems that the ink in the printer might have been low because the bar code is on there, but its discolored.

Is this something I should call the Cat # about or go back to the Wags I got them from?

Thanks

Whats the problem

If you are trying to redeem these at Wags, Im not sure what your problem could be. I have had several that do not scan but the cashiers always just punch them in manually and all is good.

Thanks

I actually haven't tried them at Wags, only at Jewel. I'll be going to Wags tomorrow so hopefully they will just punch in the code like you said without problems, thanks.

Number of Cats I can use to pay at Jewel

Ok, I've been pretty successful at Wags with cats, I know you can't roll those RRs on the same deals and if I want to pay with a RR & coupons I have to make sure I have same number of items (3 items= 2 mfc & 1 RR). But I know things work differently at Jewel. There you can roll the cats. My question is: At Jewel can I pay with more cats than I have total number of items? (3 items, use 2 mfc & 2cats) Thanks for all the help everyone gives!!

Yes

Yes, you absolutely can at Jewel. When the Crystal Lite sale was going last month, I was using 20 or more $2 Catalinas to pay for groceries, etc.

Jewel/Osco-catalinas and shelf/sale/preferred price?

I'm foggy as to which price I should use to calculate if my purchases have reached a threshold dollar amount for a catalina to print at Jewel/Osco. Here is what I understand:
Osco: it's always Preferred Price. Correct?
Jewel: if a price scan shows only 2 prices (regular/shelf and preferred), it's the regular/shelf price. If a scan shows 3 prices (regular, sale, and preferred), it's the sale price you need to use to make your threshold. Correct?

What about the ad (in current sale flier) that says, "Save $5 [and shows a preferred card] on your next shopping trip when you use your Preferred Card to purchase $20 worth of these participating Procter and Gamble products in this blue section."? Because this catalina notice specifically says you must use your Preferred Card, I assume you use the Preferred Card price to calculate if your purchases reach the threshold amount in order for a catalina to print. Correct? Thanks for clearing the fog!

Any thoughts?

Can any of you couponing black belts out there confirm if I have this right or correct me if I'm wrong? Thanks much!

Jewel

Jewel's Catalina deals do run a little differently than any other store. They will always work on the Preferred price (Spend $20 actual dollars, get X back) but at times, despite what the ad says, they work on the normal price of the item. If you choose to "experiment" with the deals this way, know that you're on your own (if for any reason it doesn't print, it's not likely you'll get the store to correct it, because the ad says something different.)

Thanks for your reply!

I'm still trying to get the hang of it but have found the information in your classes and your blog to be invaluable. Thank you for sharing your knowlege, Jill!

Where to redeem Catalinas?

Do you have to redeem a Catalina at the same store where you received it? Ones I have received will say, "redeem at [store name]" but do not say, "redeemable only at [store name]." In addition, "manufacturer's coupon" is printed on the Catalina. (As a side note, I'm attending a Super-Couponing II class in a week, but am trying to get a handle on Catalinas beforehand.)

Update: I think I can answer my own question now that I've dug around this site and learned from experience. Jewel, Walgreens, and Dominicks will all accept catalina coupons that were printed at another store as long as it says, "manufacturer's coupon" on it. (I'm not sure what Target, WalMart, K-Mart would do with this.) Jewel had denied my catalina from Walgreens once but after contacting the corporate office, they did finally accept it. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

One more note: Joseph's Marketplace (in Crystal Lake) at first denied my manufaturer's coupon catalina but I spoke with the owner (at least that's what the service desk employee said he was) and he thanked me for educating him on this. He told the employee that if my coupon scanned OK, which it did, to accept it. One more store that will accept them...yea!

Catalina fix

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge!
I went to Jewel tonight, 11/5/8, to make 3 purchases of $30 to get $15 in Cats. I had also purchased 10 boxes of Lucky Charms, to get codes to enter a sweepstakes to win a WII. Nothing printed out, not even the offer for an oil change that always prints out. I asked the cashier if her machine was working, and she said it was. (It really wasn't, but no point in wasting my time to explain it to her.) So, I went to the service desk and told them the problem. It was taken care of so easily. The woman at the customer service desk took me to the employee station by the self serve lanes. She just scanned everything and pushed some buttons to register payment, and my codes and $5 CATS printed out. I don't know what she did to make the drawer balance after that, but I really don't need to know.

McNeil PPC Inc. Catalina

Do you know what triggered this $5 Register Rewards from Walgreens. It has a 1/15/09 and all the other ones that I did this week for $5 were from Bayer (Alkaseltzer) and St. Ives with exdates within the next two weeks? Thanks.

MCNEIL CATALINA

There is $5 RR generated for purchase of 3 of the following: Sudafed, pepcid, tylenol, benadryl, motrin, mylanta, imodium and rolaids. The purchase dates are until 1/3/09 - so this is probably what generated it - if you purchased 3 of those products listed. Congrats - it's fun to get an RR when you're not expecting one....

Thanks!

Now that you mention that, I believe it was Children's Tylenol that I got the January-dated $5 Catalina on, and not the Robitussin. Thanks for the info :)

Not a clue.

The only one I've gotten recently with a date that far out was for Robitussin a few weeks ago. If you got it this week, I'm honestly not sure.

catalina

Does anyone knows what triggers the $5.00 off you next shopping trip coupon at Meijer. I never see anything at Meijer to tell me what items will trigger catalina coupons.

Meijer

Meijer typically doesn't advertise many of their Catalina deals. It's just part of their marketing, I guess -- perhaps they want it to be a "surprise" when you get one.

I do know that ANY purchase right now will trigger a $5 off your next shopping trip of $25 or more Catalina... so if you have more shopping to do at Meijer, buy one of your items at the self-checker, get that coupon -- and then go shop some more. (And get another one when you're done!)

I had a great day at Meijer yesterday with Catalinas - I got enough back to total $24. But again, because theirs are NEVER advertised, you are kind of going into it on the hope that they will all work.

Meijer Advertising and Catalina Problems

Meijer does advertise some of their Catalina's but only on Catalina's. So you really have to watch what you are buying - they do try to make it a guessing game of sorts. They had a promo going on Kraft items - buy 3 and get $2 back. Macaroni and cheese was one of the items listed so I bought it - 3 boxes each in 2 separate transactions. None printed. So I went to the service desk. They gave me a $10 custom coupon for my trouble. I tried it again a few days later and they didn't print again. The service desk wasn't quite as accommodating this time, tried to tell me it was hit and miss like the lottery. I showed them the Catalina advertising the event and they grudgingly gave me custom coupons. So I thought I'd call Catalina and see what they said. Here's their number 888-322-3814. have your receipt in front of you, they need some key info from it, and they'll be able to see if the machine was working and if you bought the right products. It does tend to take a few minutes for the call, and then you have to wait to get the RR. Probably about 2-3 weeks total but they sent me my Catalinas with one extra - I guess for my trouble. I have also learned - the hard way that Catalina must do maintenance on their servers around 11 pm our time. I was at Meijer and the Catalina's on a deal stopped printing so I went over to Jewel to do the 5 ALL Laundry detergents and the Catalinas didn't print there either. Another night at Meijer, the Catalina's stopped printing at 11 pm. So finish your shopping earlier than 11.

For the guys here...

Thanks for the info on the Cats. It takes us guys a little longer.

catalina maintenance

Any chance you found out how long the maintenance takes? a few minutes..a few hours..?